Deep Ecologists commenting on environmental managers

As we said before on our last comment, the previous graph shows and demonstrates how technology has made people blind in many environmental ways. Technology has made us very lazy and its consequences are that we stop making actions to have a better future regarding environment and our atmosphere in which we live. The graph´s title is "perception of technological change affects our behavior" as the title, says, it is affecting our behavior and they way we are acting towards our world. If there is any existing problem in the world, we now tend to leave it all to technology because people think that technology is the solution, and they are clearly wrong as mentioned before. So basically, what you are saying is that without technology we do not work, we are useless and that is incorrect. We need to know how to deal problems in different life situations just so that we are prepared for any issue and this way not being dependent on technology because we get used to things that we really shouldn’t.

The changes of society is what has lead to the damage of the environment, human beings have misused technology because at first it was only used when it was needed, and now it is replacing and taking over nature. With time society changes depending on their necessities and we tend to look for help in technology but we don’t release the damage we are creating at the same time. This facts taking by The Natural News show us how the damage is causing technology but we are not aware of it.

·      -        Modern technology typically uses non-renewable energy in some form (electricity, fuel, etc). Since these resources are limited, and the production and distribution of such energy is harmful to the environment in the general case, technology itself damages the environment, therefore.

·        -       Modern technology typically uses harmful processes in production, for example, highly toxic and acidry processes are involved in the making of computer chips, etc.

·         Modern technology typically has a finite lifetime, leaving behind toxic waste, slowly degrading plastics, etc.

·         -      Technology in general changes the environment. Rarely for the better, and often for the worse, thus damaging the environment. This includes the building of river dams, the straightening of rivers, or simply the building of roads.

This graph represents how technology is being misused since is just used for our own benefit and comfort. Technology is being used when we burn fossil fuels to create a source of energy that we can rely on, but we don’t release the damage that we are causing every time we use technology for our benefit. As the graph shows, we can see the difference between the amount of fuel production and the amount of fuel combustion since the fuel production is much lower than the fuel combustion. So every time we rely on technology to get fuel we are not releasing the damage we are creating to the environment. So in conclusion technology is not going to help improve the damages that are already done, we can solve them without relying on it.

In this graph we can see how the temperature has been increasing in the past years and the basic cause of it is the wrong use of technology. The only way to solve this environmental problem is by living technology aside and stating to take care of it by ourselves and not depending in technology. Since we are the ones that cause it, we should be the ones to fix it.

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"Technology Can Seriously Damage Your Health." NaturalNews. N.p., n.d. Web. 27 Mar. 2013.

"How Does Technology Damage the Environment?" WikiAnswers. Answers, n.d. Web. 27 Mar. 2013

Cornucopians Response to Environmental Managers:

Even though we agree in the fact that technology is absolutely necessary for the development of the human civilization, and that with out it a civilization would be one step behind, we have to disagree in the idea that Native Americans cared a lot about nature. 

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There is substantial evidence, however, that the Native American landscape of the early sixteenth century was a humanized landscape almost everywhere. Populations were large. Forest composition had been modified, grasslands had been created, wildlife disrupted, and erosion was severe in places. "

Native Northern Americans burned landscapes since it was beneficial to the growth of their crops. The fire was good for the strawberries, blackberries, raspberries, and other gather able foods, other than food it "also encouraged fire-tolerant and sun-loving species". 

Burning landscapes can damage forest composition, fertility in soil is damaged by constant burning of the landscape. 

The constant disturbance in the forest may have also caused the depletion of wildlife, provoking edge effects which affected the wildlife population.

"The size of native populations, associated deforestation, and prolonged intensive agriculture led to severe land degradation in some regions. Such a landscape was that of Central Mexico, where by 1519 food production pressures may have brought the Aztec civilization to the verge of collapse even without Spanish intervention"

The coming of the European Pioneers helped the Native Americans use the resources they had for their own benefit. They helped them grow and develop. With out the technologies and thoughts of the Europeans Native americans could of continued using their resources with out thinking on their benefit from them. The Europeans were the first step for America to be now part of the G7. 

Works Cited:

"The Pristine Myth: The Landscape of the." The Pristine Myth: The Landscape of the. N.p., n.d. Web. 27 Mar. 2013.

Cornucopias response to Soft Ecologist

If you propose the idea that by not exploiting nature we gain from it, what are clear examples of this idea. We have proposed that with the increase in demand on natural resources we have produced new technologies which have brought us to economical growth and once again life expectancy increase. The graph shows how agriculturally we have advances along time. And how we have increased our production by increasing technology.

Refer to the graph in the following link, figure 1 "Getting There"

.http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/history-of-agricultural-biotechnology-how-crop-development-25885295

In what ways do you think nature is more important than human life and survival?
"History of Agricultural Biotechnology: How Crop Development Has Evolved."Nature.com. Nature Publishing Group, n.d. Web. 25 Mar. 2013.

Environmental managers commenting on deep ecologists:
 In the first sentences you are saying that Native Americans destroyed the environment completely in the first three decades, when this didnt happen at all. They were the total opposite and defended the environment and nature with their lives, but then europeans came and implement that.
The name of the graph is "perception of technological change effects on behaviour". We can see that there are many developments on every society because of the new inventions of technology. There are many improvements because of technology  and without it we cannot be able to growth and make changes to society.
 

The first Native Americans changed complete vegetation of the mountains. The resources when they first got there the resources seemed unlimited. In three decades they destroyed completely the environment where they were living. O the other hand Europeans did the same thing. But in between these two cultures, there was a difference. Native Americans used all the resources because they had the concept that the resources where limitless and there was no way they have to use them wisely with out the abuse of them. Even though they lived in and with the nature using their resources, on the other hand, Europeans had another concept about living with nature. Europeans started putting nature a side and started to settle. We as deep ecologist realize that the awareness that we have know about the environment problems are not the same as the ones we had during the 1850’s even though we think that the problem started around those times.

It’s notable that technology has changed human’s awareness. The technology is always changing and humans are always trying to keep up with it, even though graphs show that each time that technology increases the responsibility in humans decreases, when it should be the other way around. First of all the amount of power that technology has on human race is the amount of power that nature should have on top of human race.

This is the distraction and damage done by the native americans in the 1850. 

 

We can see that since 1850 the use of fossil fuels and the producing of CO2 increases in a significant way and during the same time it was were the Native Americans started taking advantage of their resources. 

http://www.great-lakes.net/teach/history/native/graphics/statpopulation.gif


We are the soft ecologists 
Here is the link of the Cherokees in Oklahoma that will support graph number 2. 

Environmental Managers Perspective

European Pioneers in America: 

By the time the Captain John Smith entered America, his main goal was to become of that place a industrialized and innovating country. European Pioneers started to implement technology and constructing buildings and roads with the purpose of creating a country that will one day be complete industrialized. For them, the wilderness was not necessary, and in fact they were correct. The European pioneers where the ones who implemented the technology in America. As we all know, at that time, Europe where the only ones civilized enough to control technology, and until now, they continue to. At the beginning the Native Americans had never seen that kind of technology such as wheels, fire guns and other machines that the Europeans brought in. Pioneers had a goal of personal development and the idea of individual competition and improvement.  After this invasion, the Native Americans tried to fight their independence and self-preservation, but the truth was that Europeans were much more prepared and effective than them. Native Americans did not give up, but Europeans had a development plan in mind, and they accomplished that. Now at days America is the world’s biggest economical nation, and it, in a way controls the world.  Americans didn’t want to become industrialized, but when they finally gave in, the effect of Europeans pioneers was already strong and developed. 

Native Americans:

Native Americans didn’t harm the environment at all because they had a really strong relationship with it. They all had a really strong connection with the earth and always stayed in small units which kept them even closer, always aware of the different resources it offers. They always defined themselves   by the land saying that they were sacred places which needed to be preserved. They also thought of nature and the environment as a unit with their physical and also spiritual universes which bonded with the natural and supernatural. All of their traditions, origin cycles and cosmologies connected in a certain way with the environment.

 

Perspective as Ecological Managers:

Because of the European pioneer’s invasion to America, and implementation of technology, America has become what it is now.  Despite the fact that Native Americans had no idea of technology implementation, they adapted to the situation, and developed from there.  It was Because of technology why Americans developed, and the combination of resources made them able to increase to a higher level, where they exploited their resources until becoming what they are now. Being realistic, without the technology implemented by the Pioneers, Americans will be one step behind world development, and they will be struggling to keep up. 

That is a clear example of how European Pioneers were essential to the development. Technology was essential to develop, and once again is proven that without technology is necessary to the world, and it is the key to development.

We as ecological managers think that it is really good what Native Americans did with the environment and how they treated it because they didn’t do any harm to it, but what we also think is that maybe they took it a little too far. It’s fine to take care of nature and at the same time feel so connected, but we all need a balance and that’s what they needed, a balance with technology. Also our point of view is that pioneers were the key for development and without them we wouldn’t be in the place we are right now and that’s why we say that Native Americans would’ve been a lot better if they also would’ve had some technology in their lives.

Graphs and Photos:

 We can analyze this graph with the point of view of ecological managers.  our perspective is according to the exploitation of natural resources in the US during the period of 1800´s. There are four parts on this graph which explain the pre-modern, urbanizing/industrializing, mature industrial, and post industrial. There are three lines that describes the blue is of crude birth rate, the red about crude death rate, and the black of total population. The red and the blue are almost the same and have almost the same changes. and also the black of total population is how it has increase a lot. The ecological managers are the ones that have a perspective really balanced and we understand that nature and technology are really important. We can see how technology and everything has improved during the years. This graph that talks about death and birth rates are really important to understand and how the improvements of resources such as water supply, sewage, food handling, etc.

Bibliography: 

 

"Native Americans and the Environment (page 1 of 10)." Native Americans and the Environment (page 1 of 10). N.p., 13 Mar. 2001. Web. 22 Mar. 2013. <http://cpluhna.nau.edu/Research/native_americans1.htm>. 

 http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/goats-before-after-04.jpg 

"The Frontier In American History: Chapter X." The Frontier In American History: Chapter X. University of Indiana, n.d. Web. 21 Mar. 2013. <http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/turner/chapter10.html>.